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Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
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    Welcome to the seminar.  Several persons have expressed an interest in participating, so it should be a lively time (forgive me if I don’t write “energizing” or, God forbid, “empowering”).  The…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Lee Drummond 8 hours ago.

Invitation to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
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Invitation to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”  …Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by David Graeber Apr 16.

By the Time We Got to . . . Visions of Freedom through American Decades: Two "Movements" PART 2
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 By the Time We Got to . . . Visions of Freedom through American Decades: Two “Movements” Part 2.  Lee DrummondCenter for Peripheral Studies…Continue

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By the Time We Got to . . . Visions of Freedom through American Decades: Two "Movements"
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 By the Time We Got to . . . Visions of Freedom through American Decades: Two “Movements” Part 1.  Lee DrummondCenter for Peripheral Studies…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Lee Drummond Dec 29, 2014.

 

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Lee Drummond replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"  Archeology All,     The seminar, like any rewarding intellectual experience, has left me with questions, in this case one overarching question.  David’s essay develops an “archeology of sovereignty,” and…"
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Kristian Garthus-Niegel replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"...which could be tested by allowing anonymous participation. "
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Huon Wardle replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
" If to mention a downside-issue, I'd wished more voices were involved.  On that point, and on the whole, despite the interest these seminars always seem to generate (e.g. in terms of hits on the page) the general principle is that…"
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Huon Wardle replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"Thanks Lee! Great text and engaging discussion as Kristian said. I look forward to the next development, but can't be sure if I will have time to run a seminar. OAC is a funny place (I mean this, the ning site, I can't speak for its…"
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Kristian Garthus-Niegel replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"Thanks for organizing Lee. Great text; the discussion helped me explore lots of new labyrinths in my mind, so thanks also to all who gave individual contributions. I heartily concede to Huon's assessment. And: it was a blast that the author…"
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John McCreery replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"Final thoughts? Premature, I think. But we mustn't forget to thank Lee Drummond for stepping up and organizing this conversation.  We must also reach out to Kristian, Huon or interested lurkers. This discussion was the second step in what…"
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Lee Drummond replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"  Seminar participants,     As advertised, the seminar runs through Friday, April 24 Pacific Time.  It’s been a stimulating experience, and I thank everyone for taking part.  Thanks in particular to David for…"
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John McCreery replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"Question: Are crocodiles game? Or tabooed because of their association with Nyikang? Thinking about this, it occurs to me—pure speculation—that crocodiles are a lot like Nyikang. Associated with the river and the fertility of the land…"
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Lee Drummond replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"  John,     Re your: Note, however, that logs and crocodiles in rivers also resemble each other, and both come out of the river to establish a claim to sovereignty over the land beside it.   A master stroke! …"
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John McCreery replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"I couldn't agree more with what Huon has said. When I suggested that the elephant in the room was David's being an American anthropologist, I was projecting my own feelings when I first read his article. I had spent a lot of time and money…"
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Huon Wardle replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"I am by no means an expert on East Africa, just to note that in The Nuer Evans-Pritchard records his informants telling him amongst other things that all Nuer originated from under a tree in Western Nuerland and that the Nuer had few dealings with…"
yesterday
John McCreery replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"Note, however, that logs and crocodiles in rivers also resemble each other, and both come out of the river to establish a claim to sovereignty over the land beside it.  I wonder what David thinks of these interpretations."
yesterday
Lee Drummond replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"All,     In thinking through some of my notes for a cultural analysis of Shilluk origin myth and installation ritual, I feel I should supplement them – with another dose of, yes ambivalence and internal contradiction.  To…"
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Kristian Garthus-Niegel replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"John, I like a lot your efforts to place David's analysis in a more regional, socio-historic context. Perhaps we'll see a supplementary publication somewhere some day? Lee and David, your discussion on Shilluk ritual totalities…"
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John McCreery replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"Lee, A brief aside: I just did a Google search for "tree and log motifs in mythology" which produced 6,530,000 results. A search for "sacred logs in ritual" produced 30,100,000 results. The overwhelming majority of these results…"
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Lee Drummond replied to Lee Drummond's discussion Welcome to an Informal Seminar on David Graeber’s HAU essay, “The Divine Kingship of the Shilluk: On Violence, Utopia, and the Human Condition, or, Elements for an Archaeology of Sovereignty.”
"  John and Kristian,     John, I agree that comparison needs to be controlled in some way.  I don’t think it would accomplish much here to launch into a comparison of modes of political organization in Shilluk and…"
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At 11:12am on August 30, 2013, Huon Wardle said…

Lee, I notice you are looking to debate Chagnon etc. The best option is to open a 'forum' thread on that topic. You just click on + Add discussion (bottom left of that box).

cheers, Huon

At 7:49pm on April 19, 2012, Keith Hart said…

Hi, Lee. Long time!

At 4:34am on April 19, 2012, Justin Shaffner said…

Welcome to the OAC, Lee!

 
 
 

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